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Green Tide + More Dakka!: The Ork Shooty-Horde Combo That No Longer Fits

Green Tide is a 3-DP detachment, so pairing it with More Dakka! costs 4 Detachment Points and busts a 2,000-point budget. Here's what changed, and the shooty-horde lists that still work.

11th edition

BySprue Sentry

ReviewedAug 27, 2026

SourceOrks Faction Pack v1.2 (official GW PDF, legal from 26 August 2026)

Sprue Sentry strategy commentary for 11th edition, not official rules. Games Workshop updates points and rules regularly; always confirm against the current official rules and latest update before a game.

This pairing doesn't fit the budget any more. In you spend , about , and you can field more than one detachment with . That's what made a cheap 1-DP support bolted onto a 2-DP core the standard Ork plan.

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Warhammer 40,000 11th edition

Detachment Points

3 DP at a 2,000-point game

each rule applying army-wide

Green Tide isn't a 2-DP core. The Munitorum Field Manual (v1.3, 26 August 2026) prices it at 3 DP, alongside War Horde. Green Tide (3) plus More Dakka! (1) is 4 DP, which you can't pay at 2,000 points. We had it as a 2-DP detachment, sourced from a community review, and we were wrong; we re-checked against the official manual on 27 August 2026 and corrected it.

This page now covers what to do instead: the two honest ways to build a durable, shooty Ork infantry horde. This is SprueSentry strategy commentary, not official rules. DP costs and points move with balance updates, so confirm in the Munitorum Field Manual or the Warhammer 40,000 app before a game.

Why the maths doesn't work

At 2,000 points your budget is about 3 DP. Green Tide costs 3 DP and More Dakka! costs 1 DP, so the pair asks for 4. There's no discount, no shared-archetype exemption and no way to part-pay a detachment: you either fit inside the budget or the list is illegal.

That's a pricing problem, not a rules-interaction problem. The two rules genuinely would have stacked well, which is why the combo was worth writing up in the first place. Green Tide's Mob Mentality gives every Boyz unit a 6+ invulnerable save (5+ at 10 or more models). More Dakka!'s Dakka! Dakka! Dakka! gives Ork Infantry ranged weapons Assault, plus Sustained Hits 1 while the Waaagh! is active. A 20-strong Shoota Boyz mob sits inside both keywords, so it would have advanced, still fired, and been hard to shift. It just costs more than you're allowed to spend.

Option one: Green Tide on its own, at 3 DP

If the massed-Boyz horde is the army you want to play, take Green Tide as your whole 3 DP and get your shooting from unit choices rather than a second detachment rule.

You keep everything that makes the horde work: the 6+/5+ invulnerable save, Come On Ladz! to rebuild mobs each Command phase, Braggin' Rights to keep paired units counting as full mobs, and Raucous Warcaller to lock a key mob at 10-plus regardless of casualties. What you lose is Assault on your shootas, so plan on Shoota Boyz firing after a Normal move rather than an Advance, and lean on Lootas and Flash Gitz sitting still for their volume of fire.

It's the same army, played a beat slower up the board. Given how much of Green Tide's payoff is defensive, that's a fair trade rather than a downgrade.

Option two: keep More Dakka! and change the core

If what you actually wanted was advance-and-shoot Ork infantry, More Dakka! is still a 1-DP bargain. Put it beside a 2-DP core instead:

Bully Boyz (2 DP) — Nobz and Meganobz bricks that hit like a truck but walk into fire on the way in. More Dakka! gives them something to do at range and, on the second Waaagh!, sustained hits from the shootas they'd otherwise ignore.
Blitz Brigade (2 DP) — transports doing the delivery, with Assault keeping the passengers' guns live on the drive up.
Freebooter Krew (2 DP) — the loot objective's own Sustained Hits stacking with More Dakka! into the fight over one marker, which is the closest thing left to the old combo's ceiling turn.

None of these is a Boyz horde, so you give up the invulnerable save and the resurrection. You get a legal 3 DP list and two stratagem suites in exchange.

Units that still want a shooty horde

Shoota Boyz in units of 20 — the chassis either way: Boyz keyword for Green Tide, Infantry with ranged weapons for More Dakka!. They just can't be both at once any more.
Lootas and Flash Gitz — heavy Ork guns that scale with Assault mobility and Waaagh! Sustained Hits. They never got the Boyz invuln, so they lose nothing by dropping Green Tide.
A Warboss or Painboss on a big mob — carries Raucous Warcaller in a Green Tide list or Dead Shiny Shootas in a More Dakka! one, and a Painboss adds Feel No Pain either way.
Trukks / Battlewagon — delivery so a mob arrives intact and in rapid-fire range, which matters much more now that Assault isn't guaranteed.

One more caveat before you buy anything

Codex: Orks is imminent. It's the first 11th-edition codex, it went up for pre-order on 22 August 2026, and GW has previewed it with 15 detachments. Orks were deliberately left out of the 26 August 2026 points pass because the book was days away.

So the DP prices this page turns on are about to be redrawn, and the codex may not carry Green Tide or More Dakka! forward in their current shape at all. Build the list you enjoy playing, check the Munitorum Field Manual or the app on the day, and don't buy models to chase a detachment that may not survive the book.

Common questions

Is Green Tide + More Dakka! legal in one army?

Not at 2,000 points. Green Tide costs 3 Detachment Points and More Dakka! costs 1, which is 4 DP against a budget of roughly 3. We previously described this as a legal 2+1 split based on a community review's DP figure; the official Munitorum Field Manual v1.3 (26 August 2026) prices Green Tide at 3 DP, and we corrected the page on 27 August 2026.

How much does Green Tide cost in Detachment Points?

3 DP, the same as War Horde, which is the full budget at a 2,000-point game. That means Green Tide runs on its own with no room for a 1-DP support of any kind, not just More Dakka!.

What should I run instead for a shooty Ork horde?

Two options. Either take Green Tide alone at 3 DP and get your firepower from Lootas, Flash Gitz and Shoota Boyz firing after Normal moves, or keep More Dakka! as a 1-DP support and pair it with a 2-DP core such as Bully Boyz, Blitz Brigade or Freebooter Krew. Both come to a legal 3 DP.

Do Green Tide and More Dakka! rules stack on the same Boyz?

They would, which is what made the pairing attractive: a Shoota Boyz mob is both a Boyz unit and an Infantry unit with ranged weapons, so it would get the invulnerable save and the Assault plus Sustained Hits. The obstacle is purely the Detachment Point cost, not a rules conflict.

Rules sources

Orks Faction Pack v1.2 (official GW PDF, legal from 26 August 2026) · 2026-08-26
Munitorum Field Manual v1.3 (official, Detachment Points and enhancement points) · 2026-08-26
11th Edition Faction Pack Review: Orks (Tabletop Battles) · 2026-07-11
Faction Focus: Orks (Warhammer Community) · 2026-05-04
New Ork Detachments for 11th Edition (Spikey Bits) · 2026-05

Written by Sprue Sentry, grounded in the cited sources. Original commentary, not Games Workshop rules text.